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  New member
Posted by: BenjaminMbrown - 09-29-2021, 06:46 PM - Forum: Welcome, reply to Introductions and say hello - Replies (3)

Hello, just introducing myself as a new member. 

My names Ben and I run a vintage coach building company for a living (unless you ask my wife!) and are heavily involved with French prewar marques, partially voisin, Amilcar and Bugatti. But I have always had a soft spot for 50’s Panhard’s db and other derivatives of the period. Anyway along with my colleague we have recently bought two dyna x’s and by a twist of fate an early aluminium bodied z. 

The dyna z, although complete is completely in pieces and we are as yet undecided as to the direction we go with it but, what’s the rush…….

The Dyna x’s however are different beasts altogether. Bought as a joblot, as a punt from eBay with a few spares., one, the early snd complete one turns out to be the ‘49 London and Paris motor show car rhd and with the Early aluminium latticework hubs. This car will be restored, the engine has already been stripped and will soon be going back together. The second car is a later ‘51 and nor complete or in good shape. The plan for this one, to for-fill my want for a aluminium barchetta styled special is going to be realised in the style of the Italian Mille miglia car of I think ‘53? The chassis (which didn’t really exist) has been repaired and modified to take the new body and the running gear has been restored and refitted. Bodywork to commence soon. 

If anyone is interested maybe I will start a thread on both the cars??

We also have surplus to requirements one complete aluminium shell with roof but no other panels. If it’s of use to someone you are welcome to it, if no one wants it I will blast it and hang it on the wall as a work of art! But it’s far too good to go to the scrappy!!

We are also in need of some wheels but I will put a a listing on the for sale/wanted section for these and any other parts we don’t need and may be of use to someone else ( I think we have 4/5 empty engine casings!).


  transparent brake drums
Posted by: geoff - 07-29-2021, 05:47 PM - Forum: General - Replies (2)

I have just finished replacing all of the brake lines & hoses on my X and would love to test the whole system whilst the car is up on jacks with all wheels removed.
I want to see each of the slaves ( can I say that word here) in turn operate and return nicely. All I can think of is to clamp  three of the four sets of shoes and watch the fourth operate - then repeat the procedure for each of the other wheels -unless one of you clever people can come up with another idea ?


  ebay Dyna X for sale
Posted by: geoff - 07-25-2021, 07:37 PM - Forum: General - Replies (2)

although I know there is a 'for sale' forum, I am posting this here because it is not me who is selling but ebay.
If anyone is proposing to bid for this, they may wish to contact me first. I know some information about the car which may be helpful.
regards
geoff
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184952414828?


  June 2021 Magazine
Posted by: 24c - 06-14-2021, 02:48 PM - Forum: Chit Chat - Replies (2)

Thanks Brian & John for your efforts at "Brentwood Towers" oil getting the magazine together. It was really nice to see the late Alastair Brown on the front cover, which brought back some fond memories.  Also the late Robin Allen, although I never met Robin, it was good to put a face to the name. 

One nice little tweak you can make to the Comodo stalk is to add a modern electronic indicator relay, and still keep the Temsu "clic clac" device as an audible warning, but the best way to make the Comodo last is reduce the current across the contacts by fitting relays to the headlights as well. I've done this and the flaky tired Comodo has been restored. Some of the later versions have a headlight flashing function too.

Mike


  24c for sale
Posted by: Martin Mc - 05-21-2021, 10:15 AM - Forum: For Sale - Replies (1)

https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/...nhard-24c/


This just up for sale. Anyone know it?


  RIPL 2021 and meetings
Posted by: dickvick - 04-03-2021, 12:00 PM - Forum: General - No Replies

Once again the Federation has cancelled the 2021 RIPL meet in France due to Corona virus problems!
Back here at home we have been invited to attend the "British Motor Show" at Farnborough Airport on the 19th-22nd August.
They are offering a Club stand for up to 12 vehicles with a free driver pass and 10% reduction for passengers. (£23 - 10% for 4 days)
As it is our 130 year celebration this year it would be good to get a nice selection of cars to display.
To that end I have booked accommodation for the 4 days locally, so even if it gets cancelled we will treat it as a Mini break.
Anyone interested please get in touch with me.
Richard.  President.  PLCGB.


  March 2021 Newsletter
Posted by: Adrian - 03-04-2021, 02:14 PM - Forum: Chit Chat - Replies (5)

Once again I would like to say thanks to John and Brian for managing to get the newsletter 
out in this time of unease around the world.
My CT languishes under a tarpaulin in the front garden awaiting an engine, hopefully some time this year.
I may be moving home again this year, our bungalow is on the market, so yet another trailer
job will be needed to move the car !
Thanks again guys.
Adrian


  Panhard Dyna Z1 Part 6
Posted by: Martin Mc - 11-15-2020, 04:40 PM - Forum: Chit Chat - Replies (2)

Part six.
[b]13/09/1954 Panhard Dyna Z1 LHD.[/b]

Just as the first lockdown was starting to lift, the car arrived by trailer on the 5th July complete with a huge quantity of spares of which sadly 95% are for the later models. You may remember I sent out the first 2 photos below fanfaring its arrival.
As previously mentioned a lot of items had been removed to facilitate the body and paintwork and not all had been refitted. The wiring loom had been separated and has had to have an extension added behind the bulkhead. New fuse and relay board made up and fitted (no fuses on original Panhard wiring!) lighting multiswitch has had to be replaced as bizarlly it had stopped working whilst at rest!  
Biggest find was that the bodywork damage noted previously on the o/s/f bulkhead had unfortunatelyextended to the suspension. The top leaf spring was bent (compare photos nos 3 n/s & 4 o/s) plus the drive shaft had been affected. Used parts have been traced and fitted and a full geometry check will be carried out.

It fired up and ran for the first time in approx  40 years on Friday 23rd October


Tuesday 3rd November the car was briefly road tested. A couple of minor faults cured, noisy speedo and a gearlinkage adjustment, but two major faults remain. The brakes require pressure bleeding, as despite two litres of fluid bled through the system, they remain poor. A(n) horrendous clutch judder will need to be looked at despite a new clutch assy in place!?

Wednesday 4th Nov the car was collected by the owner, on the same trailer, and over the next 6 months the interior trim will be finished before returning for the clutch repair. It is getting cold now!!

There will be teething problems. It would be too much to expect everything to work as it should without some adjustments. It is after all a Panhard!

Look out for part 7 in a few months!

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  The "other" Z1
Posted by: Martin Mc - 10-25-2020, 10:47 AM - Forum: Chit Chat - No Replies

Whilst the green Z1 was away I agreed to take on the re-comissioning of another one!
This one was bought by friends living in France from the estate of the late Frank Holden in Wales. It was a "genuine barn find!" and still on French plates. My job was to get it road worthy but not to over restore.
The engine and g/box had been overhauled but needed fitting. The tyres, brakes and exhaust all needed attention. Luckily the front subframe was still servicable
It arrived here early in 2013. The brief was to make the car run with no attention to the bodywork! Other than a wipe over with WD40 the car was left "dans son jus" as the French say! (in its own juice!) The car was drivable by April and on the 8th it was driven to JP Exhausts in Macclesfield (now in Congleton) for an exhaust estimate, then returned to them on 26th for a full system in S/S to be fabricated and fitted. A major fault developed very soon, a serious clutch judder. This was found to be due to a leak on the crankshaft rear main bearing finding its way into the clutch housing. Engine out again! By May 2013 it was mobile again and drove faultlessly (as well as they do!) the 90miles to Leebotwood, Church Stretton, to have the seats refurbished.  It broke down on collection (see next episode).  After the breakdown repair it finally left UK for France by trailer in early 2015 and passed a French "Controle Technique" (MOT) within days of its return. Not sure of its current status.



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  Z1 Part 5
Posted by: Martin Mc - 10-17-2020, 07:22 AM - Forum: Chit Chat - No Replies

Part five.
[b]13/09/1954 Panhard Dyna Z1 LHD.[/b]

Then life got in the way!
The owner bought a house for renovation in the Telford area and apart from one or two small jobs the car was left virtually untouched (?) after the initial spurt on it's return from the bodyshop. I had also started working two month stints in summer in Lyon which didn't help!

In May/June 2013, I dropped another Z1 down in Shrewsbury for the seats to be restored. (Erstwhile Panhardist may recall this one was part of the late Frank Holden's collection.) This was picked up in Nov 2014 and promptly broke down with a broken torsion bar valve spring on the way back. It  had to be recovered home[Image: 2639.png] Along with the broken torsion bar, the exhaust valve had kissed the piston, or vice-versa, and was bent. The piston survived the contact OK.

You will note the ugly trailer lighting board on the car. This is because the original indicators and tail lights (+ parking light) are situated in the rear hip lights and are none too bright, or easy to spot! Similar situation with the front scuttle lights carrying  the front indicators and parking light.
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For a variety of reasons, the return of the green Z1 to my house, was delayed in 2017, 2018, & 2019 until it was finally planned for April 2020, but then the virus lockdown scuppered that, before finally arriving on 5th July .
As you can imagine after 9 years away a lot of the initial work will have to be re-checked, not least the wiring loom which had been part dismantled to facilitate the body and paint repairs.
As of today I am within a week or so of completing my side of the job, teething problems and weather not withstanding!

to be continued

The photos are of the broken down Z1. The recovery truck driver was an Amy Winehouse lookalike!   I will post details and photos of this car at a later date!



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